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Todayâs interview is with essayist and environmental writer Christina Rivera, whose debut memoir, My Oceans, came to me by way of this good creatures interview with Nancy Reddy at Write More. I was on a family trip in San Francisco and I was scrolling along in a zombie moment when weâd just landed in our airbnb and the kids didnât need me for awhile, and I read this line: âI was just interrupted five times by a child in the writing of that last sentence.â I laughed out loud and kept reading and nodding my head.
Later that day, I was wandering with my kids in City Lights Bookstore and bought a copy of her book (Sorry, Nico, I know I said I wouldnât buy any more books for awhileâŚ) Iâm glad I defied my book buying pause because My Oceans has been hugely important to me over the last few months and I needed to dog-ear it and underline the hell out of it. Itâs one of the few books Iâve read that has named the climate grief I feel and how it intersects with my feminism and my love for my children and the natural world.
In her authorâs note, Rivera writes, âI wrote this book between naptimes and mealtimes and bedtimes. I also wrote this book in pieces because it was through my fragmentation that the distinctions between Earthâs oceans and my own receded. The shape, the movement, of these essays was always waves. Sometimes crashing, sometimes lapping, sometimes with riptides that pulled me into existential crisis and spit me out. I donât pretend to have answers. If my journey has taught me anything, itâs to rigorously confess that I make mistakes that we have all made the so-many mistakes that have landed us upon this eroding shoreline of warming waters, melting glaciers, and waning species.â
Somewhere along the way of underlining and starring countless lines, I thought, âI need to ask her for an interview because I bet she would have a lot of wisdom to share.â She did. Read on, friends, for a peek into Christinaâs practices. I especially love what she shared about opening and shutting her âsubconscious door,â holding suffering and grief in this moment, and the sparkle of beginnerâs mind (& if youâre reading this in email, click HERE to read it in full!) đ
What are your writing/creative practices? Do you have any rituals or habits that help you?
Iâm a big fan of befriending my subconscious as my best writing friend. Much of what I write feels like snippets of dialogue stolen from conversations Iâve had with my dream self, and some of my best published sentences were lines I texted to myself at two am and then found on my phone in the morning. Iâm actually somewhat shy and quiet in person, so this very chatty subconscious self is funny to confess. If you read My Oceans carefully, youâll see this pattern because I often embed these conversations-with-myself into my essays. My creativity is also very seasonal.
Autumn is my primary creative season, and the minute the kids go back to school, I start going to bed at 8:30pm and waking up at 5:30am. That early dark hour, while the house sleeps, feels sacred to me. And if I can get to the page fast enough, itâs my ripest hour for continuing the conversations I had through the night. I try to protect those morning hours by staying off my phone, deferring my marketing-writing work, and even asking family members not to talk logistics with me until after noon. If Iâm sorting out weekend dog sitters for hockey tournaments at nine am, the rest of my day kind of takes on that left-brained voice, and that makes my right brain scowl.
Also, thereâs a âsubconscious doorâ that I have to actively open and shut. For example, as summer approaches, I need to close it. Otherwise, my subconscious is banging at the door, and yet the school plays, sports camps, and camping logistics are all screaming louder, and then I can get into a very angsty and sharp-tongued place. But itâs September right now, my happiest (if deliciously exhausting) month of chasing my writing muse! So letâs stay in this nice season?
What are your mindfulness practices? Do you have your own definition or way of thinking about mindfulness? Can you describe your practices and what they bring into your life?
In July of â24, in preparation for the onslaught of â25 that I felt coming, I did a Buddhist retreat with my ten-year-old daughter. When I came home, I pulled together an altar. I didnât have to do much. As it turned out, I had been collecting items for my altar for two decades and didnât know it. But I told my mother-in-law I was looking for an altar and she said she had something in storage, and it showed up on my porch and fit perfectly into my tiny writing room (converted, quite symbolically, from the kidsâ nursery).
The items on my altar were things Iâd picked up from my travels around the world: shells, sculpted deities, storied stones, etc. They were collecting dust in boxes and corners, but all sighed with relief when they found homes on the low table in front of my kneeling cushion.
I started lighting a candle and sitting for twenty-ish minutes, a few times a week. That seat, now, feels like the only reason Iâve survived the last year. This year still feels like a daily game of surviving the grief. But now I need to sit like my dog needs her walk outside. And for a few minutes of every meditation, I put my forehead to the ground and I hold my grief like I would a baby. When I give my grief my attention, it seems to let up, and give me permission to feel other non-griefy things.
These days, most of my short meditations are guided. Depending on my mood or struggle, I pick guided meditations from the Plum Village app or the Zen and the Art of Saving the Planet curriculum I did last fall. I love the ways those calm voices and words and mantras set the tone for my day. That all being said, I have fallen off my meditation practices enough times in my life to know that it could all just walk off a cliff at any moment. But I really hope not. If nothing else, the global and national suffering of this era has really pushed (shoved?) me into my rededicated practice.
Do you see your creative and mindfulness practices as connected? In what ways?
I definitely see my creative and mindfulness practices as connected. My mindfulness practice helps me move more fluidly between states of being. Like, that âsubconscious doorâ I talked about earlier? It can sometimes be one of those revolving doors at the front of hotels, and my creative urges are like my kids: running into it and pushing as hard as possible and screaming as it picks up speed, and then unable to stop the momentum as it bites at their heels. Meditation helps me opt for the other door, the swinging one I can open and push through, that closes gently. My dream recall is also better, and thatâs partly because it was part of my new mindfulness routines to (finally!) kick my phone out of my bedroom.
The term âinterbeingâ is also on the back of my book, and thatâs ThĂch NhẼt Hấnhâs word. âInterbeingâ was already how I felt the world, but ThĂch NhẼt Hấnh gave me the word to describe it. Also, a Zen Buddhist nun just showed up in my work-in-progress novel, and sheâs subtle but persistent. So maybe thatâs how my creativity and mindfulness intersect? In subtle and still-surprising ways!
Do you have a mantra or motto related to your creative/mindfulness practices/life?
Well, first, I have a whole wall of mantras and mottos pinned to the wall over my altar. My memory is crap and I enjoy constant reminders. Seasonally, I move the quotes around, retiring some and adding new elements. Hereâs a few of the things on my wall today. Interestingly, I think each of these quotes can be read through a creativity eye, and also a mindfulness eyeâŚ(different angles of the same gem?!)
âTrust the unsaid things to remain unsaid. Trust the silence to speak through the seams.â âBeth Kephart
âNot everything that is faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed until it is faced.â âJames Baldwin
âMigration is not an easy or pleasant thing for a tiny bird to face. [...] The tiny bird, before conditions force itânot driven by fear, but drawn by Hope, commits itself in perfect confidence to that infinite ocean of air.â âEvelyn Underhill
âWe must live by the love of what we will never see. That is the secret discipline.â âRubem Alves
âYou are enough.â âTerry Tempest Williams

What helps you when you get stuck with your creative/writing practice?
I donât often get stuck with my writing. I think thatâs because the pressures of parenthood make every minute I get to write, feel both urgent and sacred. Iâm also very forgiving of myself. I think parenthood makes you a more forgiving person in general. So many days, my writing goals get dropped. But maybe I still listen to a writing or mindfulness podcast in the carpool line. Or I finish reading an essay while waiting for kids at lacrosse practice. Or I didnât get to sit at my altar, but I can still turn ten minutes of my dogâs walk into walking meditation. Lowering my expectations of everyone (including the country) seems to serve me well.
I also really believe in the power of incubation. Iâve been sitting on a novel draft for a year, dreading the number of comments in the margins that needed to be tackled. But when I did finally drop into it last week, I had fresh clarity and the revising was swift, like my subconscious had indeed been working behind the scenes. Incubation can look a lot like âstuckness.â The pressure can feel uncomfortable, but I like to trust that momentum is secretly building.
What does the phrase âbeginners mindâ mean to you? Does it connect to your creative/or mindfulness practices? How?
I really hate expectations, so the concept of eternally embracing âbeginnerâs mindâ brings me tremendous relief. I will only and ever claim myself âa student ofâ Buddhism and mindfulness, knowing full well that I could walk off the cliff of my nice routines and cute wall quotes at any moment. There were a few years in my 20s when I attended Vipassana retreats and meditated every day. But then I fell in love with a boy, and it all went out the door. And then I had a baby, and it all went out the door again (for like ten years!).
You caught me in a moment when Iâm rededicating myself to the practice. But thatâs just because the suffering of the planet feels otherwise incapable of being held. And I do want to hold it. That feels the least I can do. Meet its eye and hold it with love.
Iâve never thought about how âbeginnerâs mindâ applies to the craft of writing! My first book was a non-fiction book of essays, and that was a five-year skill-learning curve. The novel Iâm now working on has required an entirely new set of fiction craft skills. So that was also a long journey of mistakes and study (that Iâm still on). And the third book (already talking to me) is, of course, yet another genre. But I love the journey of writing a book. I love starting over. I love beginnings. Maybe for the same reason that I love travel: everything sparkles when you see it for the first time.

Are there any books / writers / teachers / approaches that have been transformative for you that you would recommend to readers?
ThĂch NhẼt Hấnhâs tools and teachings and community of Engaged Buddhism have provided me with the most practical path through the suffering on this planet today. I have religious (Christianity) trauma, so I donât go around telling everyone that. I donât like to go around telling anything to anyone! Iâm probably a bad parent because I even hate telling my kids what to do! But you asked, and so there you go. Engaged Buddhism is not a religion, but more of a philosophy, specially adapted for Westerners who love their individuality and freedom. I also have some trauma around the word âfreedom,â but Zen Buddhism really turned that word upside down for me. Turns out I love wide internal skies to fly in, and I needed to see the world from a much more distant, Third-Person Omniscient, maybe even Fourth-Person POV (for the word nerds). ;)
A Prompt from Christina
Try inviting, or invoking, your ancestors into both your creative and mindfulness practices. No one told me to do this, and Iâve been surprised by whatâs come from fostering the connection.
I gave my ancestors a space and items on my altar, and now I feel them circumambulating my daily life in both creative and spiritual ways. By the way, I donât really know my ancestors. A lot of my heritage is either broken, or lost, or felt as black and white as the few existing photos Iâve seen. But when I light the candle and feel into my lineages, my perspective and understanding of time shift. And I think those shifts are healthy, both for awareness of a body-in-time, and also for fresh POV of a body-in-story. Anyway, itâs just an idea to play with if it sounds interesting to you. I followed my curiosity, and now I feel more warmly enveloped in a continuum of existence.

Christina Rivera is the author of MY OCEANS: Essays of Water, Whales, and Women (Northwestern University Press, March 2025). Her work has won a Pushcart Prize, the John Burroughs Nature Essay Award, and appeared in Orion, The Cut, The Kenyon Review, Longreads, and Terrain.org, among other places. You can learn more about Christina and MY OCEANS at www.christinarivera.com. You can also invite her to your book club or subscribe to her series of blue love letters, MobyBytes, on Substack!
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I definitely will be ordering my oceans soon. I am so touched reading about the suffering of the planet as a call to practice â that practice truly honors all beings, all ancestors as well as children & future children.
Loved this! A Christina's book has been on my list for a while. Time to read it this fall!